Prabhupāda: You are individual soul.
Dr. Patel: You are ego.
Prabhupāda: Not ego. You are individual soul.
Guest (1): Ego is one part of this.
Prabhupāda: Ego is another covering.
Dr. Patel: Covering of the ego you surrender, then the soul surrenders automatically.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Covering... Ego is covering of the pure soul. So you are pure soul. That is ahaṁ brahmāsmi. "I am Brahman. I am not this covering." This covering, bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca ahaṅkāra (BG 7.4). These are coverings.
Guest (1): They are coverings.
Prabhupāda: Material. Even up to ahaṅkāra.
Dr. Patel: Saṅghaṭas cetanaṁ dhṛtiḥ (?).
Prabhupāda: That is, that is also material. So... When one realizes that "I am not this. I am pure soul, part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa," that is, that surrender is nice. Brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati... (BG 18.54).
Guest (1): Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu...
Prabhupāda: Mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām (BG 18.54).
Dr. Patel: Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu.
Prabhupāda: Yes, samaḥ means he knows that "All these individual souls, they're all part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa."
Guest (1): He's fully abiding in Him.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu. So they are, therefore they try, everyone, to bring to Kṛṣṇa. That is service.
Dr. Patel: The asamatā is māyā.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: When you consider different...
Prabhupāda: So a devotee, therefore, goes everywhere and begs, "Please become Kṛṣṇa conscious. Please become surrendered to Kṛṣṇa." That's all.
Dr. Patel: Yesterday, that film arrived?
Prabhupāda: Yes?
Dr. Patel: I saw it. I saw you dancing also. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Yes. And because I dance, therefore they dance.
Dr. Patel: But that was becoming in America, the last part of it?
Prabhupāda: No. It was in London. Deity installation.
Dr. Patel: He did it very well, the man who edited the film.
Prabhupāda: Oh, that Yaduvara. He is very good. Where is Yaduvara? He is here? No. His wife. Yes. She's also... Viśākhā. They are, husband and wife, both of them, very expert, photography.
Dr. Patel: I may now solicit one to the, to the māyā, that (Hindi) of the working this.
Prabhupāda: What is that? That is not māyā. (break?)
Dr. Patel: We are talking on that. Why don't they start it here?
Prabhupāda: No, no. Where are men?
Dr. Patel: I can get the men. Will you? No, just... (break)
Prabhupāda: ...yukta-vairāgyam ucyate. Anything which is favorable to our this being Kṛṣṇa conscious, we accept.
Dr. Patel: No, we don't want because of factory.
Prabhupāda: They are, they are doing that business not for any individual profit.
Dr. Patel: No, but for the profit of the temple you can have it.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Dr. Patel: No individual profit.
Prabhupāda: That we can do.
Dr. Patel: We can do it here. I know so many people who, who can... (break)
Prabhupāda: Just like we are printing these books. And as soon as we take the bunch of books to any gentleman, he pays immediately, "Eleven hundred. Take it." Better business. You see. First of all I began business of this, simply by giving the Kṛṣṇa Book.